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Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby Raoh » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:39 am

Hi there.

I'm new to 3DGE although I know how to MOD and work with original Edge.
Nice project you guys have here.

I have some questions about 3dge:

1.- Is the fog really disabled? I would like to create a map and fog would give a very interesting looking. There is some parameter in lines.ddf that seems to indicate "NOFOG". That means there must be fog somewhere for it to be disabled
2.- I can see that version 1.4A does have fog. Testing it I can see that blueish fog. Is it possible to change it's color and density somewhere? I want to build a hellish map, so I need red, yellow, clear brown or orange fog.
3.- Where can I see a list of features offered by 3DGE for us, modders/mappers? What does 3DGE offers to a Modder or mapper that original Edge doesn't? I'm not refereing to code optimization or bugs cleanup, but features like fog, railgun attacks or whatever.
4.- I read somewhere 3DGE has support for Heretic, but when I try to launch Heretic using 3DGE 2.0 using the -bat included, I got a "Missing languages" error.
5.- Can I access COAL scripts from a DDF and/or RTS script (and the other way too)?

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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby 3rd_3ye » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:11 am

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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby 3rd_3ye » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:38 am

Well, it looks like Corbin is absorbed with getting 3dge2.0.1 debugged and out to the public. I'll take a swing at a couple of your questions.

1&2- 3dge 1.36 uses the old fog setup for doom. I think the devs are aiming for gzdoom style fog in the near future. Sorry, no idea how it's controlled.

3- 3dge is running full bore to catch and maybe surpass other tc oriented ports in features while maintaining vanilla edge's approachability and versatility. Broadly speaking, major changes include: 4 different model formats, uncapped framerate, quake3 roq, Hexen style falling, ladders, greater menu styles control, caustic water fx, and dozens of other small improvements that I can't think of at the moment.
The change log contained within 3dge's directory should cover the basics.

5- most of the ddf/coal/rts features of edge3.5 are still intact. The changelogs and this forum are probably the best place to go for assistance.
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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby Raoh » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:13 am

Thanks for your answer.

BTW, is there a way, either in EDGE or 3DGE, to make a player armour that takes 100% of the damage done (this is, reduces damage done to player to zero, while armor is up)?

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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby RUNSABER » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:13 pm

- Public Repository for 3DGE 64.

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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby 3rd_3ye » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:59 am

Not sure if it would meet your requirements raol, but I went over to the heretic ddf folder and found a SPECIAL=COUNT_AS_ITEM string under heretic artifacts. If armour was an item, player could "recharge" damage incurred as long as there were armour items to draw from. That's probably not what you meant and it might require the heretic iwad to function.
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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

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Re: Hi and questions about 3edge

Postby Coraline » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:09 am

When you pick up some armour, and the thing DDF uses the ARMOUR_PROTECTION command, various properties are remembered for that color of armour. The ARMOUR_PROTECTION command is the percentage of damage which is saved by the armour (100% for all) which overrides the default protection rates (e.g. BLUE_ARMOUR is normally 50%). This was apparently undocumented, so I will add it to the Wiki right away. Remember there is also GREEN, BLUE, PURPLE, YELLOW, RED armor to choose from.

You do not need to use any hard-coded armor, and can even change the built-in armor (like Green, etc). For pickups, use the SIMPLE_ARMOUR special so the Doom emulated mode goes away.
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